Discussion:
Changes to the meeting structure
Pasi Lallinaho
2015-09-03 21:50:23 UTC
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Hello,

per an action item (self-)assigned to myself [1], here is my proposal
for changes in the Xubuntu community meeting structure.

1) Stop running the "Team updates" section

Pasting the updates in a meeting means more work (through having to
memorize/note down items) for contributors. It also means that those who
can't attend the meeting (which means many people per meeting), can't
paste the updates unless somebody does this for them.

Since we now have a timeline tab [2] in the tracker, most of these
updates can be seen live.

The only real change in action contributors would need to take would
apply to work items. Practically this means that everything that could
be worth mentioning for people outside the team - or added in the
release notes - should be in the blueprints. Doing the updates like this
also improves their findability. As I see it, this isn't much different
from what we currently do, or at least what I try to do.

Finally, the updates that aren't worth/important enough to add to the
blueprints could still be shared in the meeting, thus...

2) Rename the "Announcements" section to "Updates and Announcements"

This is just semantics, but it should be done to avoid confusion and be
more accurate.


I'm not the one who approves or disapproves the notion, but please do
send feedback. This way we can likely vote about the changes around the
next meeting.

Cheers,
Pasi

[1]
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2015-09-02#line-44
[2] http://tracker.xubuntu.org/#tab-timeline
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Simon Steinbeiss
2015-09-03 22:19:11 UTC
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Hey Pasi,

Thanks for the initiative and writeup. Making meetings more efficient is
definitely worthwhile!
Post by Pasi Lallinaho
1) Stop running the "Team updates" section
Pasting the updates in a meeting means more work (through having to
memorize/note down items) for contributors. It also means that those who
can't attend the meeting (which means many people per meeting), can't
paste the updates unless somebody does this for them.
Since we now have a timeline tab [2] in the tracker, most of these
updates can be seen live.
This absolutely makes sense to me. I've fallen in love with the new tracker
almost at first site and I think it should take a more prominent place even
on our website, because it is a one-stop-shop for outsiders to understand
what is "currently going on" in the team. (Even if the titles of the
workitems aren't self-explanatory, the tracker brings them together
meaningfully and allows people to follow the links to further information
as found on launchpad blueprints.)
Post by Pasi Lallinaho
The only real change in action contributors would need to take would
apply to work items. Practically this means that everything that could
be worth mentioning for people outside the team - or added in the
release notes - should be in the blueprints. Doing the updates like this
also improves their findability. As I see it, this isn't much different
from what we currently do, or at least what I try to do.
+1
Post by Pasi Lallinaho
Finally, the updates that aren't worth/important enough to add to the
blueprints could still be shared in the meeting, thus...
2) Rename the "Announcements" section to "Updates and Announcements"
This is just semantics, but it should be done to avoid confusion and be
more accurate.
I would agree that this is a tiny change. I just hope people won't
unintentionally use it like the Team Updates section ;)
Post by Pasi Lallinaho
I'm not the one who approves or disapproves the notion, but please do
send feedback. This way we can likely vote about the changes around the
next meeting.
Agreed, this should be voted on by the whole team at the next meeting.

To be frank, I haven't taken part in many other team's meetings, so I don't
know whether there is something we could learn or benefit from. But if any
of you are in team meetings that have e.g. a structure you consider
especially constructive please open a new thread on that so we can discuss
it. (Not saying we should throw our meeting structure out the window, but
since we're already on the subject...)

Cheers
Simon

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